Tuesday, June 22, 2021

Figures lie and Liars figure

So god help me - I'm watching  / Listening to the Mets game yesterday....


These announcers are about as bad as it gets ,,,, and I fully understand that the Yankee announcers also - as I guess maybe every hometown TV and Radio crews tend to pump up the Home team.....  They are all but running onto the Field to award the Cy Young award and MVP to DeGom Yesterday  !!  And pulling every pitching stat from every year back to the Old Testament  !

ANd yes - his stats are totally impressive , and I wish the Yankees had someone like him ... as good as Cole has been , DeGrom is considerably better,, as almost any baseball stat - you need to acknowledge what era they are being compiled in.   This will be the Debate of all Basball stats - pitching today - way different,,, as is hitting,,, Hitting in smaller parks, Home runs that go out on the Current Yankee stadium would be long fly ball outs if they were hitting in the old old stadium 0 that was 408 to Center - 390 / 385 in the LF and RF gaps...  OR worse if you played for the NY GIANTS in the Pologrounds 483 to center , 455 & 449 to the Gaps !!   and people will say , Night game, Travel, Relief pitching ....etc all have an effect,,,

Back to DeGrom - and let's compare  him to Bob Gibson ,,, as that was one of the guys they were touting as DeGRom being so much better than  - The stats they that do Not mention are Complete Games and innings pitched - and I do not blame the METS in protecting their guy - and  having him throw less pitches,  and Essentially NEVER face a Batter 3 times in a game,,,,

1968 - Gibson was Cy Young winner and League MVP 
He was 22 and 9 (I dunno how he lost 9 times ! ) ERA 1.12 , 34 Starts . 13 Shutouts .. 268 K's - 68 walks, WHIP .853, .. 304 innings pitched , of the 34 starts - 28 COMPLETE GAMES...  YES - this was long before you had a lefty/righty specialist, a SET-up guy and a Closer that you are paying millions to get the last 3 outs ...

Degrom - 2018 - he was 10  and 9 (Mets sucked - he was 11 and 8 in 2019)  32 GAmes and Starts - No shutouts...  ERA - 1.17, 269 K's and 46 walks , WHIP .912 - 217 innings and 1 complete game - ONE  - the total K's and K's per inning is amazing,,, but let's remember that today - the Strike out is not thought of as a big deal.... in 1968 (Pete Rose who was 2nd in MVP voting in '68 K'd Just 76 times in 692 at bats,,,   Yelich - the MVP in 2018 K'd twice as often as Rose ..


SO - 304 inning for Gibson - 217 for DeGrom - pitching the  equivalent of 10 more games.... 
And - Gibson had double digit wins in 14 straight year and 20 wins in 5 year , 19 wins in 2 , 18 in 1 year...   NOW - if I was DeGRom , i'd sue the MEt's for lack of Run support,,,   Gibson pitched for nearly 20 year, and Degrom is say half was thru his 8th,,,,, 

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